[Found midway in video 8]

Jamie Skeeters:

I agree with you.  I, I  really hope it works out.  If you take the test or

not, I really hope it works out for you.  I really do.  I know I can help you.  And, either way I can help you.  Either way, I can help you, whether be personal or for the court system.  And, that’s what I do.  And, if my people didn’t think I couldn't help you, I wouldn’t be here.  I’m five, almost six thousand miles away. So, you know they had to believe in you to send me that far. Ten hours on a damn plane.  So, they believe in you.  I’m here.  Use me.  You won’t get that kind of offers anywhere else in the world. But, I’m here.  And, it’s free.  I don’t want part of your royalties for your show.  If you’re clean, you’re clean.  But... if I can have, some how, some way, get a information... where the body is, I will take care of that.  Whether it be you or whoever.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	I told Beth everything…she won’t believe us, of course. But, that... that...
	that has been going on for weeks and we don’t go on tv also. No matter what we say…

 

Jamie Skeeters:	It depends who you say it to. You say it to Greta… look at my... She
	chewed my wife out… My wife and she got in an argument on the phone and Greta doesn’t know my wife. My wife is tough. That’s the Mexican in her. (chuckles)

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	I mean, everything we say today, they just don’t believe us. At the end of
	the night, we still are suspects and stay... we’ll stay suspects.

 

Jamie Skeeters:

That’s why that little machine can… if it’s not to… it’s to see if

somebody’s statements are true or not. That’s what that little box does….that’s all it does. It’s an investigative tool, that’s all it does. It convinces people if someone’s telling the truth or not. And, it holds up in governments all over the world. Sure, they don’t want to use it in court, because, it’s too accurate. If everybody used it in court, you don’t need juries or a judge. If somebody’s accused of something, put em on the box. If they fail it, shoot 'em. If they don’t fail it, let em go. That’s why it will never be used to take over our system. You don’t want to be judged by a damned machine. It’s smarter than we are anyway. You know? And... So, you gotta have that human touch… the judge, the jury. But that can clear your reputation up... do it all day. I get so many husbands and wives telling me,  “I think she's screwing the gardener… find out.”       “Did you screw the gardener?”  “No. ”  Bloop, bloop, bloop, bloop… (makes voice like a machine beeping)      ”Yes, you did.”  “Well, maybe once.”  You know that type thing… but, it’s uh. That’s what it does; it clears up your reputation… that’s what a polygraph is. And, if it helps you, great.. it can’t hurt you, unless you’re lying.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	No, of course not.

 

Jamie Skeeters:

If you like, (unintelligible)… It can only help, there’s no negative on it.  If

somebody’s clean, it’s like (unintelligible). It’s like (unintelligible)... There's people that'll never believe in that polygraph." It doesn’t work. It’s voodoo. It’s not accurate. It’s not…"  Bullshit!  Those are the ones that have failed it, because they got dirty. They took one and failed it... most of those. You pass the polygraph, [NOTE: beginning of video segment 8]you watch people… especially whoever gives it to you. I’m good… I wouldn’t be here. You get some sharky, that doesn’t know what the hell he's doing and it doesn’t mean a damn thing.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	I’ve heard it.. you know.. people they can bypass it. The polygraph.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	There’s people that can, that’s cause they beat the operator.
	You can beat me; you might even be able to beat the machine. But, you can’t beat me and the machine. We're both on it.  And that’s the best equipment in the world. That’s the best money can buy, because, I’m the best trained.       [End of video segment 7]

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Because, when we were cooking up the Holiday Inn story… You
	know, there was a Holiday Inn story before... before the beach. Van der Sloot told... I told.  I asked Van der Sloot, himself,  "What if they give us a polygraph test," and he said, "I’ll pass it," ...about the Holiday Inn story. "There’s no way in hell they can beat...."

 

Jamie Skeeters:	There isn't.
	(Skeeters answer appears as though he thought Deepak had said the test can't be beat.  But, it seems Deepak was still quoting Joran saying, the polygraph operators couldn't beat him.)

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	He say... He said, “I’ll bypass it, I know how”

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He couldn't beat that.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	That’s what he told me. Thats..

 

Jamie Skeeters:

Yeah, I know...people always say they “I beat a poly…they did that.” I

can tell on that when you squeeze your ass, just thinkin' about something. I can tell counter measures, I can tell when people are movin' and tryin' things. Which, I will show you how it works, before we do the test. I’ll show you how it really works, I have you pick a number out and uh, it’s.... If I was guilty of something, I wouldn’t take the poly and I know everything about that thing. I can't beat it and I'm one of the best in the world. I can't... I can scramble it up,  because I know what I know what I'm doin'.  But I can't beat it. But, I'm good, I'm very good. So, if somebody like you or this person, that doesn't do this for a living...

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	And you were mentioning a friend, a friend of mine, Sanchez, I think, you
	know, before I was leaving, you said...

 

Jamie Skeeters:

There’s a friend of mine that knows you. That... he knows you, he knows

all the players. He’s on the in, over here. He’s a pretty respected individual here. He.. knows….I met him, (sighs) through a retired Federal Agent, who will be here Wednesday…my old partner. He's... I need some help, so, I brought him over... to start getting these girls and all that shit lined up, that I’m going to be doing polygraphs on. And, uh... uh… we're gonna be paying some of the people to cop out on the waiters that are doing the ecstasy drugs. There’s a lot of stuff going on… it doesn’t involve you. It involves how people can get drugs, and so forth. But, this person here, that’s on the high up...

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	And, he knows me? Or, he or she knows me?

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He.  And uh… Or, knows of you, I don’t know if he’s a personal friend. I’ll
	talk to him probably tomorrow. Before this is all over with, you may know him. But, I, it’s just like if you say, “don’t say something,”  I’m not going to burn you.  I keep my word. He said, “I don’t want people to know who I am because the minister here will make it tough on me.”  And uh...

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	No.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	But, he uh...  he has some stuff on paper that, where you allegedly
	had... somebody has told him that you said... not him, but, told the investigators that uh.. you were at the (unintelligible) and he got that from you... and, he supposedly knows you. I’ll ask him (unintelligible).  He’s scared about the corruption.. he’s worried about (unintelligible).  I guess it’s bad. This guy Mansur, you know him?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Jossy Mansur..yeah? I don’t know him personally.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He seems like he’s good people

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	He seems...

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He’s not (unintelligible)?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Not really (unintelligible)...

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He knows your mother, doesn’t he?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Mansur.. no (unintelligible)

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He doesn’t?  I thought he did.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	The gardener?

 

Jamie Skeeters:	I don’t know the gardener.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Beth’s been checking him also out, because he worked for Mansur.
	He’s Mansur’s gardener and, in court, he told the judge Mansur convinced him to testify. Ok. So, we’ll be looking into that also.  If we’re being blackmailed or screwed or whatever it is, because Beth told me personally, not the first, but some more times.  She’s going to Holland, she's taking a message, that’s what she told me

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Well, I’m supposed to do him with the polygraph.  .

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Hmmm.  So, the gardner?

 
 

Jamie Skeeters:

Uh... hmm.  Well, I do you first before I do him.  You have priority.  If

you, that is, if you are going to take it.  But, if not, I’ll find out if he’s telling the truth. And, uh, I’ll let you know.  I’ll let you know.  If he’s uh, if he comes up truthful or not, or whatever, he said, cause, I don’t know what all he said.  I mean, what I just heard a little bit about, what I told you.  But I’ll, uh, we’ll find out.  But he’s uh, he was running and hiding, but he’s back.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Yeah, that’s what I heard too.

 
 

Jamie Skeeters:	So he, uh...

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	As far as goes for Beth, Beth just wants us…

 

Jamie Skeeters:	If you want a beer, help yourself.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Thanks.  As far as goes for Beth, um, I know she wants us to hang for
	for this.  All three of us.

 

Jamie Skeeters	If, if you’re guilty she wants you hung, but if you’re not guilty she’s
	not going to want you.  She wants her baby, that’s all she wants.  And you know that’s all she wants.  I mean, you hear her every night on TV, but, I hear it from good source, that’s also on her case.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	And, so she’s drinking... party in casinos?  Late in the night?

 

Jamie Skeeters:	I don’t know.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Drinking cocktails on... on beaches?

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Is that what she’s doing?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Believe me, I have my sources.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Okay.  Is she partying?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	And drunk in casinos.  (unintelligible)

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Okay.  (laughs)  Shit...Get 'em on with video.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	And, um, still has the nerve to come tell us, you know.  (I) mean, come
	on, the Aruban people, we, our familes, to tell you, quite frankly, we gave enough for someone, to tell you the truth, dressed like a slut, talked like one, was a racist…

 

Jamie Skeeters:	The mother, I mean the daughter?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	The daughter.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Really?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:

Was a racist, I mentioned. And um, would go in a car with three

strange guys.  And her mother claiming her to be the little goody two shoes.  Come on.  Enough with the BS already.  It's been enough.  And, I can tell Beth on her face, I don’t care.  I mean, go and say bad things on us. We don’t need any of this.  We just don’t care anymore.  I can tell Beth, you know, on her face, on camera, you know, "Screw you, go home.  You made my life miserable.  You ended it."

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Yeah, I’m sorry.  I really am sorry…Nobody deserves that....

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	No, I don’t blame everyone for one person’s actions.  I’m not angry
	at the world.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Then give me a chance to tell my people, America, your side of the
	story.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	I’m not angry at anyone.  I don’t hate anyone.  I don’t like your
	president though. (laughs)  That’s something else.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He’s a good ol’ boy.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Uhh, let’s not…
	(laughs)

 

Jamie Skeeters:	What don’t you like about ol’ George?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	(laughs)
	No, Clinton was my favorite president.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	You like... you like Bill?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Yeah.  All of them, he was my favorite. I like him, he’s cool.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	He’s cool.  He’s all right.  He just likes women.  There’s nothing
	wrong with that either.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	But, I don’t like (unintelligible)   George. (unintelligible) George.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	How do you feel about America being in the war?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Um, it was good.  Sadam was a freak anyways.  He killed innocent
	people, tortured them, so.  It was about time, you know, for him to go home, but um, Bush, don’t lie, you’re going after him, because he's working for the (unintelligible)   I mean, come on, let’s get straight on the point.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Yeah, you’re right.  You’re right.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Yeah, so, um, he had to go anyways.  I mean, come on, the guy was
	obviously crazy, so I’m not blaming him, you know, for getting in the war .  As long as he, you know, recovers the country, from damages you know.  Damage control, that’s the important....  So...

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Were you in the military though?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Me?  No.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	They don’t have a military here or anything?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Yeah, they have, but um, I wanted to join, but, um, I was too short for
	(unintelligible) they tell me.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	You’re short? How tall are you?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	(laughs)
	I don’t know, I, but they told me I (unintelligible) .  I’m in business economics now.  That’s what I was going to study.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	That’s good.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Yeah.

 

Jamie Skeeters:

You’re still gonna go.  You’re still going.  I think you’re gonna take

[Note: Start of Video 9]

this.  I think your attorney’s gonna let you, and you, I will ask you six months or one year from now “How is your life since you took the polygraph?”  I will keep in contact with you.  And, I will remind you of what... how you felt today, and six months from now, and a year from now, and you will be a happier man.  You will be a happier man, because of this.  I,  I promise you.  I promise you, you will be a happier man.  Just having it, will be able to make you a happier man.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	It’s not that I’m unhappy right now, it’s just, you know..

 

Jamie Skeeters:	I said happier.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Yeah.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Ok.  You will be a happier man.  Seriously.  Is your
	mother working now at all?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	No, no.  She’s still looking for one.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	(inaudible whisper)

[NOTE: End of video eight]
 

Deepak Kalpoe:	I might have. Yeah.  ... family, so,  probably don't know, most of our
	family in Americas are in...  Canada and America... and they are the one that’s sending funds to us.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Oh, are they?

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	(laughs) And they don’t know... that it's better that way,  so they
	don’t want anyone knocking on their door.  So, the less they know is the better, because they’re looking for a scandal everywhere.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	You're gonna... you’re in a position, where if somebody knows
	where that body is, you and your attorneys would probably know, somehow.

 
 

Deepak Kalpoe:	We don’t know where the body is.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	No, but, if it does come.  You give it to me. I don’t take a penny.  I’ll
	make sure your mother and whoever helps you, whoever gives you the information. You just, I'll...you’ll get it to me in a way to help her and you.  There can be a message here on the (unintelligible). And, and I will,  I will (unintelligible)

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	If I knew where the body is, I would tell them a long time ago. Let
	them start a trial and get this over with.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Yeah.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:

I don’t care, you know, if they charge us with murder, or no. When

they went…at the morning they arrested us... five a.m. and you’re suspected of murder, rape, kidnapping... I said, "So, the charging us is not so big, because being suspected, it’s already in,"  You know, that progress. So.  It’s not that big of a deal.  But, I would end everyone’s mystery.. I just don’t know. But, if I tell Beth that, tell Greta,  they don’t believe us. Everything we say right now is just trash, you know.. so we just don’t go on tv or.. or news or news stations.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Well, not just any tv. Be choosy, like Phil or Oprah. Be choosy.
	You know these people make their living by scoops. They’ve got scoops…

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	Yeah, the more bad news the better, they say. No one wants to hear
	good news.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Yes, Phil does.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	(laughs)

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Look at us. Prove this, before you make up your mind. Watch him
	tomorrow; five o’clock I think he’s on your channel here.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	I know that. He comes on NBC after Judge Judy. I, I like her.

 

Jamie Skeeters:	Judge Judy’s a good woman.

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	I like her

 

Jamie Skeeters:	She’s good, you don’t want her pissed at you.
	(laughs)

 

Deepak Kalpoe:	(laughs)
	I like her. I watch a lot of American shows. You know? Sometimes my parents say, “Are you American or what”?

 

Jamie Skeeters:	I was the chief of police of four colleges out in California. If things
	work out this way with us, I’ll get you in school in California.

 

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